Dokumendiregister | Terviseamet |
Viit | 6.3-9/24/10436-3 |
Registreeritud | 16.12.2024 |
Sünkroonitud | 17.12.2024 |
Liik | Sissetulev dokument |
Funktsioon | 6.3 Tervishoiutöötajate registreerimine ja kutsekvalifikatsiooni tunnustamine |
Sari | 6.3-9 Kirjavahetus tervishoiutöötajate registreerimise ja kvalifikatsiooni küsimuses |
Toimik | 6.3-9/2024 |
Juurdepääsupiirang | Avalik |
Juurdepääsupiirang | |
Adressaat | NTT Data |
Saabumis/saatmisviis | NTT Data |
Vastutaja | Liina Saar (TA, Peadirektori asetäitja (3) vastutusvaldkond, Tervishoiuteenuste osakond) |
Originaal | Ava uues aknas |
A. Proof of education/training-related qualifications First, thank you for bringing to our notice, that “overall classification of the qualification such as summa cum laude” is not requested by your authority. Second, to ensure that we effectively identify all formal qualifications proofs that are relevant for the recognition procedure of healthcare professionals, could you please also comment on the following questions? The current formal qualification proofs (slides 19-21) cover proofs that refer to post- secondary general education (namely higher education diplomas), as well as secondary (EQF 3-4) and post-secondary (EQF ≥5) vocational qualifications. Below you see how these three proofs are positioned within the hierarchical classification of formal qualification requirements (a slightly revised version of slide 18).
Question-1: Has your authority identified the need to request proof of qualifications that are not covered by the currently tertiary education and the vocational education & training
requirements currently listed in the slides 19 to 21? For example, for qualifications mentioned in Article 11(a) or Article 11(b). Question-2: Spain has submitted a separate proof for qualifications that do not fall under tertiary (higher) education diplomas but that refer to course/training that proves specialist competence and which may be required in addition to the diploma. Has your authority identified the need for requesting such proof?
• Question-2.1: If the answer to the above is yes, would you re-use the description shown in slide 30 or would you need to revise it and how?
• Question-2.2: Would such proof need to be added to Level 2 proofs, alongside the general and vocational proofs shown in the diagram above, or would it be a type of general/vocational qualification?
B. Proof of absence of criminal record
You commented that your authority “only needs the information regarding one’s rights to practice the profession”. Given that “proof of absence of suspension/prohibition of practice” (slide 23) addresses this need, your comment leads us to understand that “proof of absence of criminal record” isn’t needed by your authority. Is our understanding correct? C. Proof of absence of suspension/prohibition of practice
Is it sufficient for your authority to know that there is no suspension/prohibition in place when the applicant completes the procedure, or does your authority also need history of any previous suspensions/prohibitions of practice? D. Proof of change of name Thank you for bringing to our attention that although your authority needs this information, it is the applicant that must issue such proof, not a competent authority from another Member State. However, we’d like to ask what would happen if there were an option to get such evidence from a competent authority. Would you accept it, or would you still need the applicant to issue this proof? E. Proof of acquired rights
Thank you for clarifying that when acquired rights apply, your authority needs confirmation that the qualification meets the conditions of Article 23. Could you please also advise on the following? Question-1: Does your comment mean that instead of having two separate requirements, like the ones shown in slides 34 & 35, it would be sufficient to have a single requirement “proof of compliance with acquired rights” that would cover all cases of Article 23? Question-2: What are your thoughts about merging compliance of qualifications with Annex V (slide 26) and compliance with acquired rights in a single requirement? For instance, using as name “proof of conformance to EU harmonised minimum training requirements” and as description “Proof that the evidence subject's (natural person) formal qualification conform to the harmonised minimum requirements as laid down in Chapter III, Title III of the Directive 2005/36/EC.”? Question-3: As the evidence provider, does your authority have such evidence of compliance ready for exchange, or would the applicant need to request it first for your authority to issue it and make it available for exchange? F. Proof of diploma supplement/Proof of transcript Question-1: Do you request any of these proofs for applicants falling under the general system? If the answer is yes:
• Question-1.1: Do the current definitions (slides 41-42) reflect the information needs of your authority?
• Question-1.2: The minimum information defined for the “proof of tertiary education transcript” (ID 3) is also contained in the current minimum information of the “proof of diploma supplement” (ID 312). Consequently, the information contained in the evidence of transcript would be a subset of the information that is contained in the evidence the diploma supplement. Does your authority still see both as relevant? Is there some other proof that may be relevant, e.g., for clarifying the extent/subject matters of the studies?
G. Regarding the general system of recognition When a healthcare professional from another Member State applies for general system recognition in Estonia, do the requirements shown in slide 39 reflect the proofs that such an applicant would need to submit to your authority? Are there any additional proofs that your authority would need?
From: Stamatia Dasiopoulou <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: OOTS EM - Professional Qualifications stream follow-up
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Hello
The chart is attached to the e-mail.
Overall classification of the qualification such as summa cum laude is not needed and we do not have the information either.
Just a comment: in IMI competent authorities can also ask about disciplinary action taken against the applicant. Estonia does not have the information (if it does not result in the professional having their rights revoked for some time).
We do not have the information regarding one’s place of birth and we do not ask for it either.
Acquired rights are largely based on one’s work experience and we do not have this information. Therefore we have to ask the applicant to get a letter of proof from their employer and then Health Board will be able to provide the needed confirmations regarding article 23. However it should be taken into account that since the applicant must get a document from their employer first, replying to the inquiry might take time.
Regarding the general system: for Estonia this means mostly (although not only) professionals that do not have to be registered to have the right to practice (for example physiotherapists, care worker, chiropractor etc). If they are not registered then Health Board will not be the one to issue any information regarding them – this is then up to the Ministry of Education And Research.
Liina Saar
Service Manager – Recognition And Registration
Of Health Care Practitioners
Department of Health Care Services
+372 6509858
Republic of Estonia
Health Board
+372 794 3500
Paldiski mnt 81, 10614 Tallinn
Estonia
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Teema: OOTS EM - Professional Qualifications stream follow-up
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Dear all,
Thank you again for all the time and effort put in the PQ workstream activities and your valuable inputs & insights.
Please find attached the slides from today's follow-up meeting for your review at your convenience.
As part of the immediate next steps (summarised also in slides 50 & 51), we'd appreciate your feedback via email on the following:
1. Have we missed any requirements that your authorities need in relation to the recognition of PQ of healthcare professionals? If yes, please indicate so following the template shown in slide 9. Please note that if such a missing requirement happens to overlap with an existing "gray area" requirement, we'd still need you to indicate your definition of it.
2. Regarding the minimum information of the listed requirements:
a. As Evidence Requesters: are there any redundant or missing data? I.e., data that you do not need but are listed or data that you do need but aren't currently listed.
b. As Evidence Providers: are there any data that you cannot provider? (If for some of these requirements you have already commented directly in the wiki you don't need to repeat the comment)
3. Are there any requirements for which further specialisation (i.e., replacing by more specific ones) or, conversely, merging (i.e., replacing by a broader one) is needed to more accurately capture the information needs of your authorities? If yes, please explicate the rationale (e.g., replace Req_X by the more specific ones Req_X1 and Req_X2 because of separation of concerns since in some cases only part of the evidence data are actually needed by the authorities; or replace Req_A and Req_B by a combined Req_AB because the authority doesn't need to distinguish between the two).
4. Any other comments on how to further improve the definitions of the requirements. E.g., revise a requirement name to be more concise or elaborate further a requirement description to enhance its understandability.
As always, please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions or for any additional comments and thoughts you'd like to share.
best,
Stamatia
A. Proof of education/training-related qualifications First, thank you for bringing to our notice, that “overall classification of the qualification such as summa cum laude” is not requested by your authority. Second, to ensure that we effectively identify all formal qualifications proofs that are relevant for the recognition procedure of healthcare professionals, could you please also comment on the following questions? The current formal qualification proofs (slides 19-21) cover proofs that refer to post- secondary general education (namely higher education diplomas), as well as secondary (EQF 3-4) and post-secondary (EQF ≥5) vocational qualifications. Below you see how these three proofs are positioned within the hierarchical classification of formal qualification requirements (a slightly revised version of slide 18).
Question-1: Has your authority identified the need to request proof of qualifications that are not covered by the currently tertiary education and the vocational education & training
requirements currently listed in the slides 19 to 21? For example, for qualifications mentioned in Article 11(a) or Article 11(b). Question-2: Spain has submitted a separate proof for qualifications that do not fall under tertiary (higher) education diplomas but that refer to course/training that proves specialist competence and which may be required in addition to the diploma. Has your authority identified the need for requesting such proof?
• Question-2.1: If the answer to the above is yes, would you re-use the description shown in slide 30 or would you need to revise it and how?
• Question-2.2: Would such proof need to be added to Level 2 proofs, alongside the general and vocational proofs shown in the diagram above, or would it be a type of general/vocational qualification?
B. Proof of absence of criminal record
You commented that your authority “only needs the information regarding one’s rights to practice the profession”. Given that “proof of absence of suspension/prohibition of practice” (slide 23) addresses this need, your comment leads us to understand that “proof of absence of criminal record” isn’t needed by your authority. Is our understanding correct? C. Proof of absence of suspension/prohibition of practice
Is it sufficient for your authority to know that there is no suspension/prohibition in place when the applicant completes the procedure, or does your authority also need history of any previous suspensions/prohibitions of practice? D. Proof of change of name Thank you for bringing to our attention that although your authority needs this information, it is the applicant that must issue such proof, not a competent authority from another Member State. However, we’d like to ask what would happen if there were an option to get such evidence from a competent authority. Would you accept it, or would you still need the applicant to issue this proof? E. Proof of acquired rights
Thank you for clarifying that when acquired rights apply, your authority needs confirmation that the qualification meets the conditions of Article 23. Could you please also advise on the following? Question-1: Does your comment mean that instead of having two separate requirements, like the ones shown in slides 34 & 35, it would be sufficient to have a single requirement “proof of compliance with acquired rights” that would cover all cases of Article 23? Question-2: What are your thoughts about merging compliance of qualifications with Annex V (slide 26) and compliance with acquired rights in a single requirement? For instance, using as name “proof of conformance to EU harmonised minimum training requirements” and as description “Proof that the evidence subject's (natural person) formal qualification conform to the harmonised minimum requirements as laid down in Chapter III, Title III of the Directive 2005/36/EC.”? Question-3: As the evidence provider, does your authority have such evidence of compliance ready for exchange, or would the applicant need to request it first for your authority to issue it and make it available for exchange? F. Proof of diploma supplement/Proof of transcript Question-1: Do you request any of these proofs for applicants falling under the general system? If the answer is yes:
• Question-1.1: Do the current definitions (slides 41-42) reflect the information needs of your authority?
• Question-1.2: The minimum information defined for the “proof of tertiary education transcript” (ID 3) is also contained in the current minimum information of the “proof of diploma supplement” (ID 312). Consequently, the information contained in the evidence of transcript would be a subset of the information that is contained in the evidence the diploma supplement. Does your authority still see both as relevant? Is there some other proof that may be relevant, e.g., for clarifying the extent/subject matters of the studies?
G. Regarding the general system of recognition When a healthcare professional from another Member State applies for general system recognition in Estonia, do the requirements shown in slide 39 reflect the proofs that such an applicant would need to submit to your authority? Are there any additional proofs that your authority would need?
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