ISO 13920:2023 tõlgendus
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From: Dokumendihaldus TTJA - RTK <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 07:14:07 +0000
To: Maaja Pontus - RTK <[email protected]>
Subject: FW: ISO 13920:2023 tõlgendus
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2025 2:00 PM
To: TTJA Info <[email protected]>
Subject: ISO 13920:2023 tõlgendus
Tere,
Oleks tarvis hinnangut ISO 13920:2023 vastavuse kohta. Oleme kliendiga erinevatel arvamustel ISO 13920:2023 tõlgenduses. Ei leidnud kohe, kedagi kellel oleks kõige parem pädevus ja arusaam tehnilistest standarditest ja seega pöördusin teie poole, pole kindel, et keegi mind teie poolt aidata saab, aga proovin ikka. Lisasin joonise manusesse. Kirjanurgas on standard ISO 13920-BF. Klient mõõdab punases ringis olevat sõlme nurka vastavalt ISO 13920 standardi klassile B. Mina ei nõustu, kuna antud standardis ütleb punkt 4.2 selgelt, et selleks, et nurka mõõta vastavalt ISO 13920 tolerantsi klassile B, peab joonisel nurk tähistatud olema arvväärtusega või vastava indikatsiooniga. Ei piisa eeldusest, et peaks olema 90 kraadine nurk kahe detaili vahel. Punkt 4.2 nõuab nurga tähistamist.
Probleem: antud küsitav koht joonisel (märgitud punase rõngaga), klient mõõtis nurga üle ja oli 89.1 kraadi kaheavadega detaili vaheline nurk. Peale seda tegi reklamatsiooni ja viitas ISO 13920 standardile, joonisel kirjanurgas on ISO 13920- BF. Minu vastus oli, et( kuna joonisele ei ole märgitud nurga mõõtu, oleks see märgitud siis kehtiks standardi järgi B tolerantsi mõõt) seal ei saa kasutada nurga B tolerants mõõtu, aga klient on veendunud, et tolerants võib olla ainult ISO 13920 punkt 4.2 välja toodud B klassi tolerants nurgale +/- 30 minutit.
Parimat,
Virgo Vasemägi
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SFS-EN ISO 22553
SFS-EN 22768 SFS 5803-m SFS-EN ISO 13920-BF SFS-EN ISO 9013-II B
Pos. 3 Bigger opening for foot space1060521
164.0 40 NX40002
4/
31/10/22
DN6084680081
1:10 JUJ
DN5911230 ESCW
IN THE DRAWING
NAME BEAM, HOLDER DESC -Matec cabin
4 6 3
0
1 5 7 8
0
1 2 5 4
0
1 5 6 2
0
8 8
8 5
5 7
( )
5 5( )
1 1 3 9
5 8 0
1 0
20
1 2
3 1
2 07
a5 322C
a5 416 C
16 06
a4 90 C
1 1 0 ± 1
5 5 5 + 5
0
6 6 1
8 1 3
8 0
7 63
96 123
2 4
89
3 2 20
R
1 5
828
1325
1 1 2
6 9 8
9 55
1 2
4 0 0
Top view Scale: 1:10
1 2
3
4
5
6
11
12
6 70 C
a4 19C
a5 a5
180 180
C
14A A
E E
F
F
20
3 0
Left view Scale: 1:10
a2 25 2 pcs
16 06
2 8
134
1 8
6 9
Section view E-E Scale: 1:10
9
a4 300C
a4 a4
172 172
C
a5 130C
a3 137 C
1310
9
3
58 32
6 0
PART 13 Scale: 1:5
300
1 0
Section view F-F Scale: 1:10
4
a3
35
35
2pcs
15
Changed: 2022-11-22
Level Pos ID Rev Drawing ID D.Rev Name and description NET Qty Unit Design
weight
Scaled
weight
Manufacturer
Name
Manufacturer
Item
Item text Position text Changed
0 N6084680 08 DN6084680 08 BEAM, HOLDER, -Matec cabin pcs 164.0 164.0 2022-11-22
1 1 N6094940 A DN6094940 A BEAM, LOWER SUPPORT, -Matec cabin 1.0 pcs 102.0 102.0 2020-11-23
2 1 43806316 - NA NA
RECTANGULAR HOLLOW SECTION, 150X100X6,3
S355J2G 2.4 m 2006-11-10
2 2 43776316 - NA NA
RECTANGULAR HOLLOW SECTION, 120X 60X6,3
S355J2G 1.218 m
SUORAK.PUT 120X
60X6,3 S355J2G 2006-06-27
2 3 04200547 - NA NA PLATE, 20 X 2000 X 6000, S355J2G3C 0.1232 m2 - - 2020-09-10
2 4 04150548 - NA NA PLATE, 15 2000 X 6700 S355J2G3 0.06 m2 - -
LEVY 15 X2000X6000
S355JOC 2020-09-14
2 5 04080548 A NA NA PLATE, EN10025-2_S355J0C_8 0.057 m2 0.0 0.0 2021-03-18
2 6 04080548 A NA NA PLATE, EN10025-2_S355J0C_8 0.047 m2 0.0 0.0 2021-03-18
1 2 N6029080 - DN6029080 MOUNTING ROD, _ 2.0 pcs 0.5 0.5 2020-11-23
2 1 04150548 - NA NA PLATE, 15 2000 X 6700 S355J2G3 0.005 m2 - -
LEVY 15 X2000X6000
S355JOC 2020-09-14
1 3 04150548 - NA NA PLATE, 15 2000 X 6700 S355J2G3 0.326 m2 - -
LEVY 15 X2000X6000
S355JOC 2020-09-14
1 4 43754016 - NA NA
RECTANGULAR HOLLOW SECTION, 100X50X4
S355J2G3 0.697 m
SUORAK.PUT 100X
50X4 S355J2G3 2020-11-24
1 5 04080548 A NA NA PLATE, EN10025-2_S355J0C_8 0.101 m2 0.0 0.0 2021-03-18
1 6 04080548 A NA NA PLATE, EN10025-2_S355J0C_8 0.134 m2 0.0 0.0 2021-03-18
1 7 04080548 A NA NA PLATE, EN10025-2_S355J0C_8 0.0535 m2 0.0 0.0 2021-03-18
1 8 34055077 - NA NA FLAT BAR, 50X5 S235JRG2 0.192 m 1.96
LATTATANKO 50X5
S235JRG2 2020-11-19
1 9 04120548 - NA NA PLATE, 12 X2200X6000 S355JOC 0.019 m2 - - 2020-11-23
1 11 34054077 - NA NA FLAT BAR, 40X5 S235JRG2 0.1 m 0.0 1.0
LATTATANKO 40X5
S235JRG2
L=105
0002 2020-11-24
1 12 04120548 - NA NA PLATE, 12 X2200X6000 S355JOC 0.013 m2 - - 2020-11-23
1 13 43245016 - NA NA SQUARE PIPE, 60X 60X5 S355J2G3 1.31 m
NELIÖPUTKI 60X 60X5
S355J2G3 2006-06-27
1 14 N5970520 - DN5970520 BRACKET, - 10.0 pcs 0.04 0.04 2020-11-23
2 1 35006081 - NA NA ROUND BAR, 6H9 AISI304 0.166 m 0.0 0.0 2008-12-02
1 15 N6124350 - DN6124350 BRACKET, WORKING LAMP, - 1.0 pcs 0.48 0.0 2020-11-23
2 1 34054077 - NA NA FLAT BAR, 40X5 S235JRG2 0.312 m 0.0 1.0
LATTATANKO 40X5
S235JRG2
L=105
0002 2020-11-24
1 16 N4200335 - DN4200330 - FASTENING, BAR, L=300 1.0 pcs 0.134 0.134 2016-02-08
2 1 JP101716 - NA NA ROUND BAR, 8 S235JRG2 0.34 m - 8 S235JRG2
PYÖRÖTANKO 8
S235JRG2 2021-04-06
ENGINEERING REPORT (Sourcing) BEAM, HOLDER, -Matec cabin
ID: N6084680
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SFS-EN ISO 22553
SFS-EN 22768 SFS 5803-m SFS-EN ISO 13920-BF SFS-EN ISO 9013-II B
Pos. 3 Bigger opening for foot space1060521
164.0 40 NX40002
4/
31/10/22
DN6084680082
1:10 JUJ
DN5911230 ESCW
IN THE DRAWING
NAME BEAM, HOLDER DESC -Matec cabin
2400 719
40
26 1
48 0
50
61
1 2 4
5 5 4
2 0 0
4 0
2 5 01 7 6
1 00
638
250 250
1 4
500 456350250
Section view A-A Scale: 1:10
8 13 14
1 2
a5 220C
a5
5
69
69 D
B BC D
8 2
6 35
5
Section view B-B Scale: 1:10
7
6 84C
a6 510 C
a4 75 C
a5 20C a5 510 C
74
1 4 8
16 R
8 Detail C Scale: 1:5
a5 159C
a6 490C
6
84 6 8
16 R
50
1 0 0
1 8
8
4
2 0
Detail D Scale: 1:5
a6 159C
a4 300 C
4 868C
5
07 07
50
4 0
20
2 0
12
PART 11 Scale: 1:2
s=5
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SFS-EN ISO 22553
SFS-EN 22768 SFS 5803-m SFS-EN ISO 13920-BF SFS-EN ISO 9013-II B
Pos. 3 Bigger opening for foot space1060521
164.0 40 NX40002
4/
31/10/22
DN6084680083
1:10 JUJ
DN5911230 ESCW
IN THE DRAWING
NAME BEAM, HOLDER DESC -Matec cabin
1 2 1
0 2 1 4
0 2 9 7
0 3 3 0
0 6 8 0
0 4 1 9
0 5 1 9
0 6 1 9
0 5 7
0
117
170
55
0
255
3 0 7
1058
1 3 0
221
86
40 R
1 0 4
63
20 11R
20 R
10 M
3 0 7
13
20R
20R
6 5
330 350
PART 3 Unfolded view Scale: 1:5
s=15B.L./T.V.
B . L . / T . V .
08
08
1 2 4
0
2 7 4
0
4 2 4
0
5 7 4
0
1 3 4
7 5
7 01
732
2 1
55
2 3
12
7R
PART 5 Unfolded view Scale: 1:5
s=8 B.L./T.V.
4 2
0 1 8 2
0 3 2 2
0 4 6 2
0
2 0 4
6 55
350
1 4 0
565
1 2 2 6
5
2 5
1 2 7R
84
1 73R
PART 6 Unfolded view Scale: 1:5
s=8
B.L./T.V.
2 9
0
8 9
0
1 61
1 1 6
77
7 6
20R
2 5
14
7 R
PART 9 Scale: 1:5
s=12
96
5 0
20
1 5
2 0
PART 8 Scale: 1:5
s=5
3 8
1 5
1 09
172
2 4
3 2
R
PART 12 Scale: 1:5
s=12
535
1 0 0
192100100
2 7
10 6R
491
5 0 7
54 5
69 .2
510
PART 7 Scale: 1:5
s=8
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SFS-EN 22768 SFS 5803-m SFS-EN ISO 13920-BF SFS-EN ISO 9013-II B
Pos. 3 Bigger opening for foot space1060521
164.0 40 NX40002
4/
31/10/22
DN6084680084
1:10 JUJ
DN5911230 ESCW
IN THE DRAWING
NAME BEAM, HOLDER DESC -Matec cabin
G
G
5 0
1 0
10 5 0
Section view G-G Scale: 1:10
14
a4 19C
07
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/
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NAME
Added parts 5 and 6 holes D18 four pcs1016075
102.0 40 DN6084680
2
17/10/14
DN6094940 A 1
1:15 OPA
DN6087460* ESCW
BEAM,LOWER SUPPORT DESC -Matec cabin
728
9 3 7
60
6 8 0
3 0 0
2 2 6
2 0 0 ± 1
7 3 0 ± 1
5 0
3 8 5
5 0
( )
2 5 0 ± 1
8 0( )
40 ±1
100 ±1
2 3
2 2
1 7 6 ± 1
2 400
Front view Scale: 1:10
a6 500C
a6 560C
6 60 C
a6 60C
1
2
3
4
1 A
A A
B C
C
30
105
35
5
Left view Scale: 1:10
32R
7631571( )
1325 ±1
2400
7 7
955 ±1
1 5
1 1 0
1 5 0
1 5 0
Top view Scale: 1:10
a8 221 C a8 159 C
6 5
a
242
1 3 5
7
1 6R
8a4 115C
Detiail A Scale 1:5
180
1 3 5
7
16 R
8
Detail B Scale: 1:5
a4 115 C
6.3
100
1 5 0
Section view C-C Scale: 1:5
a8 150C
6 150 C
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NAME
Added parts 5 and 6 holes D18 four pcs1016075
102.0 40 DN6084680
2
17/10/14
DN6094940 A 2
1:15 OPA
DN6087460* ESCW
BEAM,LOWER SUPPORT DESC -Matec cabin
300
2 0 1
1 0 8
2 0 20
PART 4 Unfolded view Scale: 1:5
s=15
b.L./T.V.
V I E W I N R O L L I N G
PART 3 Scale: 1:5 138
2 3 0
50 R
20
PART 4 Scale: 1:5
125
1 1 0
32R
15
385
3 2 0
1 1 4
9 0 90
20 20
PART 3 Unfolded view Scale: 1:5
V I E W I N R O L L I N G
s=20
B.L.
1 2 1 8
1 20
7
5 0
6
4 0
PART 2 Scale: 1:5
D
D
40
0
110
30
0
120
359
3 6
1 5 9
1 26
205
221
7 3
82.6
6 9 . 4
4 1.3
3 4 . 7
7 8
12
8 R
1 5 0
5 5
90
91
18
18
PART 5 Unfolded view Scale: 1:3
s=8
B . L . / T . V .
a
a
40
0
110
30
0
120
1 5 9
3 6
1 26
205
7 3
297
82.6
6 9 . 4
4 1.3
78
12 8R
159
1 5 0
5 5
90
3 4 . 7
1 8
18
30
PART 6 Unfolded view Scale: 1:2
s=8
B . L . / T . V .
a
a
60
40
1
6. 3
Section view D-D Scale: 1:5
Oxygen cut
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0.48 71 N5988520
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28/08/15
DN6124350 1
1:1 HSO
* SC
BRACKET,WORKING LAMP Description
-
312
4 0
7474
2 0
96 60 60
11
Unfolded view Scale: 1:1
5
4 4
Auxiliary view A Scale: 1:1
4 4
Front view Scale: 1:1
164
8 0
10R 10
R
5
Left view Scale: 1:1
40
Isometric view Scale: 1:2
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PRODUCT
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kg
SFS-EN ISO 22553
SFS-EN ISO 22768-mK SFS 5803-m SFS-EN ISO 13920-BF SFS-EN ISO 9013-II B
/
IN THE DRAWING
New revision from Enovia*
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1
29/03/06
DN4200330
KIINNITYS,TANKO, - FASTENING,BAR, -
- 1
1:2 HAH
* RTG
L
2 6
8 2 2
R R
Front view Scale: 1:1
L N4200331 100 N4200332 150 N4200333 200 N4200334 250 N4200335 300 N4200336 350 N4200337 400 N4200338 450 N4200339 500
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